I can only think of one example where standard drivers don't work with a NIC.  My opinion is if updating them caused your NIC to fail then using the old drivers until something doesn't work with them(and can be traced directly back to a NIC issue) would be your best course until they release a new revision for your drivers.

Thanks gentlemen!

X

Well first of all think you're going to be able to keep it under $150 since the cheapest one I found was $129.  That is not to say that the GeForce 7600 GT is overly cheap and worthless it runs from about $120 to up to $180.

It's different than the more expensive cards in the series by giving it only half as many pixel pipelines and half the memory bus width.  But a higher core and memory bus speed is still pretty good.

The lower power requirement also has a nice benefit - it doesn't need or come with a PCI Express power connector. This means you can most probably use your old PSUs, even if you want to run two cards in SLI.  But if you're going to run two of them might as well go for GeForce 7900 GT.

But I believe that for the price the 7600 is definitely worth it.  Also if you're into over clocking this card, I've read that it doesn't do very well.  So that's just a warning in case you wanted to.

NVidia said it's made for Windows Vista but I only see that DirectX 9 comes with it and no side not saying that it will work with DirectX10 when it comes out.  I don't know if that would make a difference seeing that DirectX 10 won't be mainstream for a while, I could be wrong on that though.  But if it was made for Vista then I would assume that when DX10 comes out it'll be fine.

The one thing I find odd that stacking up the 7600 and the 7900 the Core speed is higher by almost 100 MHz.

As for gaming the 7600 with SLI does excellent with high end games.  FPS on Far Cry averaged around 59.  And without the SLI it still does well averaging 36 (this is with all options turned on to the best of the best graphics).

The weight of the card is nice as well.  I'm glad NVIDIA has done away with the huge metal cooling fans and gone to more of an aluminum compound.  It's very light weight, and much more light weight than some of the older cards.

I say get the card...but shop around cause I think you'll find one for under way under $150.  I suggest NewEgg.  They would have the best deals for ya.

Enjoy and remember...this is just your average geek's opinion.  I could be wrong.

X

Well that stinks.  Why does the manufacture say that it's built for Vista but not going to be compatible with DX10.  Seems kinda stupid.  If that's the case then I see no point for them to tell people they've built the card for Vista.

X
(odd)

Those prices will plummet as soon as ATI gets a DirectX 10 card on the market.  There are only two DX10 cards on the market, and they're both from nVidia.  That skews the price range a bit.

-b0b
(...nods.)

Ok guys (and girls) I'm looking for a USB front panel port for the parent's computer such as this one:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16815150025

I was wondering what needed this device needed to connect inside the computer. I see the product manufacture says "One available internal USB 2.0 (type A) port" however my computer does not have an internal USB connector. However it does have one on the outside. I don't believe that one is a USB 2.0 port. Would this device still work if I connected it a) in the outside USB port and b) if it's not a USB 2.0 port? Also does the smaller end of the USB cord connect into the back portion of the internal card and then the larger end into the motherboard port? The pictures aren't the best so I can't see for sure.

Thanks for the help.

X

I'm not sure I understand.  I looked up breakout box and what I found doesn't look familiar to me.  Also what square 8-pin jobby? 

X
(Sorry ....  ...don't understand)

I'll see if I can find some pictures when I get home.

-b0b
(...will probably forget, so be sure to bump the thread after 5:00pm.)

Pat, that would be the most ghettoriffic thing ever.  Instead of adding ports, you're really just installing a hub to break an existing port into four ports.  That will result in your traffic being split four ways, meaning your total bandwidth is limited to that of a single USB port.

Get a real breakout box that runs to the motherboard, not that ghettoriffic piece of junk.

-b0b
(...trust me!)

If you guys were to suggest a nice PCI TV tuner, what would you say?

I'll give you five bucks for your old one. 

-b0b
(...weee!)

Well if you have a single monitor I'd go for the Power one (the cheaper one) but if you have duals then I'd go for the Asus since it's a faster card.

At first I saw that card and I knew that others like it were going for 550 - 650.  Why is that one so expensive.

why would i buy that card?

why would i put $3500 rims on a $700 car?

these questions can never be answered...

you ever see drawn together?...

what you mean is it shows you the funny side of racism...aka the only side of racism!

So where can a girl go to get some cheap laptop RAM? I'm looking for either a 512 mb or 1 gb stick.

I've got a keygen for Generals and Generals: Zero Hour.  Do you want me to run a couple keys for you?

-b0b
(...could definitely do that.)

Generals:     8003-4308392-7910125-2157
GZH:           5PYG-8ZJH-JFAH-ZNTG-R8TZ

thanks!

Ewwwww

Nm...got it working...man that resistor was fried.

You'd think that a place who overcharges and who I have no clue how they've stayed in business this long would be open on Sundays...not at all.  BTW...Three Rivers is the worst town ever...you think you could find some simple electronics without having to go to Kalamazoo?!  NOOOOOOOO!

Anywho...it was one of the bigger resistor so I just threw in a 400W to replace the burnt out 350W.

X

you couldn't find one and 'liberate' it from a lab at western?

I've been seriously considering building my own rig lately.  Why do you ask if we are upgrading??

I told you I would sell you my old rig (new to you!) for only $823.64.


Which happens to be what my new one would cost...


...will also throw in this shitty lapper

There is a new E6750 with 1333MHz FSB that would really kick ass and its pretty cheap.  I was surprized at the price.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115029

The ram(at 1333MHz) is super expensive tho, and it only comes in DDR3.

If you think that's expensive, check out the new quad core processors...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115027

That's not even a "special edition" chip.  Just wait until Intel releases the Quad Core Extreme Edition processors!

-b0b
(...bets it'll debut at $1200 or more.)

If I'm not mistaken, they're dual-core, dual-die processors, so it isn't really "emulated," but it still isn't the real deal.

-b0b
(...could be wrong though.)

If it is brand new I would say 50% and return it to the store.

If it is used (by you pat that is an understatement, zing) I would say if it is spitting 90% bad then return it to the manufacturer.

I assumed he ment the burner, because well pat goes through those like wes through twinkies.

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Like your man card?

No I meant CD-Rs not the burner.  I got a spindel of Sony CD-Rs for Christmas.  I forgot to put my brand down that I have never had any trouble with (Memorex) and I've had 12 out of 100 go bad on me.

Shoot I take care of my burners...my lifeblood.  I've only ruined one of them and that was on the old laptop.  I actually killed the laser to where it would read a disc 1 out of 1000 times and wouldn't burn anymore.

I've had the burner I now have for 3ish years now.

X

b0b wrote on Dec 27^th, 2007 at 1:24pm:

That's a really tricky problem to troubleshoot.  Have you tried testing your PSU (under load!) with a multimeter to ensure it isn't being finicky?

If I had to take a complete stab in the dark, I would aim toward memory problems.  How many sticks of RAM do you have?  If you have more than one, try removing a stick to see if that alleviates the problem.  If the issue persists, swap out the removed stick for the remaining stick to see if that does the trick.


-b0b
(...shrugs.)

No.  Without memory installed, you won't even get a beep code, let alone POST.

Generally, if you boot a computer without memory installed, everything will power up but won't actually do anything.  Also, with a Pheonix BIOS (which I assume you have), the hard drive light will stay on - which it sounds like it did.

-b0b
(...so much for that one!)

Did I call that, or what? 

My new 1TB hard drive should arrive today, so I'll probably spend much this weekend rebuilding the Bobulator.  I'll let you guys know how that goes.

-b0b
(...w00t!)

You hit both of my preliminary guesses on the head.  The only other thing that comes to mind is an ongoing disk failure which has corrupted the OS.  Are you hearing the "click of death" or getting any other indicator of a progressive hard drive failure?

I've got spare drives laying around if you want to try installing an OS on a different drive.  That should give you an idea of where the problem lies and will rule out memory and other hardware problems.  Once you get that carved out, you can connect the second drive to determine if it is a drive failure or a virus.


-b0b
(...!)

I suggest running a system restore from the installation media.  If you boot to the install CD and go to install there should be a setting there to repair.  Depending on what version of windows you are using, the exact steps are going to vary.  Once done you will have to reload any drivers that you may have installed. 

Another idea is to reseed the memory with only one stick in at a time. Maybe a stick is bad.   

Not sure if you are using a OEM machine or not, but dell has a decent diagnotic live cd that is worth trying.  HP has one too I believe.

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And realer men look to see which partition they are formatting before they do it.  I told you I would never let you forget about that!


...and 'C' does not sound that much like 'D'!!!

You overworked whore!  It went...

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That is what I said!

So I'm thinking of building my computer again from scratch.  The problem is, that being out of the loop for a bit leads to not knowing what's current and what the future holds.

So does anyone have any suggestions for motherboard, processor, graphic card, and/or anything else that might be helpful?

Heck, I don't even know what case to buy!

X

Real Men™ buy their cases from Mountain Mods.  The next Bobulator is going to require a new case (*tear*) because of the way the power supply is mounted in the existing case, and I'm looking at the Ascension Duality.  Check it out.

For what its worth, every time I plan a PC upgrade I have to spend a fair amount of time researching the latest hardware.  I can tell you anything you want to know about server and network gear at any time, but it's just too hard to keep up with PC trends when you aren't building a machine every week.


-b0b
(...shrugs.)