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Oct 17th, 2005 at 8:43am
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MORAL QUESTION

This test only has one question, but it's a very  important one. By giving an honest answer, you will discover where you stand  morally. The test features an unlikely, completely fictional situation in which  you will have to make a decision.

Remember that your answer needs to be  honest, yet spontaneous. Please scroll down slowly and give due consideration to each line.



THE  SITUATION

You are in Florida, Miami to be specific. There is chaos all  around you caused by a hurricane with severe flooding. This is a flood of  biblical proportions. You are a photojournalist working for a major newspaper, and you're caught in the middle of this epic disaster.  The situation is nearly hopeless. You're trying to shoot career-making photos. There are houses and people swirling  around you, some disappearing under the water.  Nature is unleashing all  of its destructive fury.



THE  TEST

Suddenly you see a man in the water. He is fighting for his life, trying not to be taken down with the debris. You move closer. Somehow the man looks familiar. You suddenly realize who it is. It's Bill Clinton!  At  the same time you notice that the raging waters are about to take him under  forever. You have two options--you can save the life of Bill Clinton, or you can shoot a dramatic Pulitzer Prize-winning photo, documenting the death of one of the world's most powerful  politicians.




THE  QUESTION

Here's the question, and please give an honest answer:

Would you select high contrast color film, or would you go with the classic simplicity of black and white
  

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Reply #1 - Oct 17th, 2005 at 9:52am
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I would defineatly go with the black and white.  It makes you focus on your subject without being destracted by the intern under him that he's using as a floatation device.  And you can clearly make out the lines of terror as he screams that it's not fair he won't be alive to see the one world government he helped to build.  Then he screams out to Molec for help and how he wishes he was at the Bohemian Grove where he could have all the gay prostitutes he wants...without going back to his "wife".
  

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Reply #2 - Oct 17th, 2005 at 11:26am
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It looks like the good ol' boys at the American Nazi Party were stirring up trouble in Toledo this weekend.  When will these people just give up and die?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051016/ap_on_re_us/nazi_march

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Neighbors: Neo-Nazis Had No Right to March

By JOHN SEEWER, Associated Press Writer Sun Oct 16, 6:01 PM ET

TOLEDO, Ohio - In the days leading up to a white supremacist march, ministers pleaded with residents to stay calm and community leaders organized peace rallies. Authorities even delayed releasing the route so protesters wouldn't know where the group planned to march.

It wasn't enough to stop an angry mob that included gang members from looting and burning a neighborhood bar, smashing the windows of a gas station and hurling rocks and bottles at police on Saturday. Twelve officers were injured, one suffering a concussion when a brick flew through her cruiser window.

In all, 114 people were arrested on charges including assault, vandalism, failure to disperse and overnight curfew violations.

"We knew during the preparation that it was going to be a tremendous challenge," Police Chief Mike Navarre said Sunday. "Anyone who would accuse us of being underprepared I would take exception with that."

Much of the anger boiled over because people were upset that city leaders were willing to allow the supremacists to walk through the neighborhood and shout insults, residents and authorities said.

"You can't allow people to come challenge a whole city and not think they weren't going to strike back," said Kenneth Allen, 47, who watched the violence begin near his home.

Authorities said there was little they could do to stop the group, because they did not apply for a parade permit and instead planned to walk along sidewalks.

"They do have a right to walk on the Toledo sidewalks," said Mayor Jack Ford, who at one point confronted leaders of the mob and tried to settle them down.

A gang member in a mask threatened to shoot him, and others cursed him for allowing the march, the mayor said. He said he didn't know if the man who threatened him was actually armed, but he blamed gangs for much of the violence. The march had been called off because of the crowds, and the white supremacists had left.

If the Nazi group tries to come back, Ford said he would seek a court order to stop them.

Navarre said the riots escalated because members of the National Socialist Movement took their protest to the neighborhood, which is predominantly black, instead of a neutral place. "If this march had occurred in downtown Toledo, we wouldn't have had the unrest," he said.

The neo-Nazi group, known as "America's Nazi Party," said they came to the city because of a dispute between neighbors, one white and the other black.

Police began receiving word midweek from officers on the street that gangs were going to descend on the neighborhood in protest, the police chief said. The disturbances were confined to a 1-square-mile area, but the crowd swelled to about 600 people, overwhelming police.

The crowds were eventually dispersed by police in riot gear after about four hours, and the mayor declared a state of emergency that remained in effect through the weekend.

About 200 officers patrolled the neighborhood overnight after the riot, Navarre said. Police reported no problems Sunday, but an 8 p.m. curfew was in effect for a second night.

Neighbors were divided about the city allowing the march.

"They don't have the right to bring hate to my front yard," said Terrance Anderson, who lives near a bar that was destroyed.

Other neighbors said the group had a right to have their say. "Too bad the people couldn't ignore them," said Dee Huntley.



You can find more about the rioting and vandalism here...

http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051016/NEWS16/51016003

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Reply #3 - Oct 17th, 2005 at 1:33pm
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hmmm....I think you've posted the bill clinton photo thing before, james.



its still not funny, even the second time around.



i like how republicans say they are pro-life.


strangely, they are also pro-war, pro-guns and anti-democrats.



wow! they totally ARE all about the people.




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Reply #4 - Oct 17th, 2005 at 1:51pm
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Oh no's!  I'm trembling in my socks over here!

Terrified, petrified, mortified, stupified!


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Reply #5 - Oct 17th, 2005 at 3:43pm
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Republicans and Democrats both suck...

This two party thing blows. Why do I have to choose one or the other? Ill just take things that both have, and some that neither have and call them my own, thank you very much. I dont have to follow some cookie cutter way of politics, when has that gotten anything done.

Here are my views on politics:

Bush is a freaking Nazi. Enough said. I dont know what hes got planned for the rest of his time in office, but its got me wishing I had a bomb shelter constructed. We are so overdue for another "terrorist attack" its not even funny.

I dont like abortion at all but our government does not have the right to push religous views on women's bodies. Third trimester abortions are dangerous, so I dont think those should be allowed. 

The government should be seperate from the church. This is not the middle ages or something; we are not run by a religous body. I know those that founded this country had religious beliefs, but they did not intend those beliefs to run this country. Its that very thing that they were running from in the first place.

Gay marriage, again... whatever. If they want to do it, go ahead, who are we to judge. I'm morally against it and would not like to see it at all, but hey, thats just me. Marriage in this country is more legality and tax breaks anyway, we long ago abandoned the sanctity of it.

Gun control... stupid idea. The 2nd amendment was made so citizens could protect themselves against their OWN government. Remove the guns from the people and you have a situation where people are left helpless. Think Hitler and other dictators who disarmed their countries before gaining total power.  You might think that there wont be a time where we are going to have to revolt against the US government, but just wait a few years.

Drugs. Legalize em. who cares. The whole reason there is such a huge problem in this country is the fact that they are taboo and hard to get. Legalize the less dangerous ones and get rid of some of that drug problem. Of course it will prolly make some more potheads, but then again who knows if it would be "cool" anymore if everyone could get access to it. I really dont know enough about the issue, so thats just a loose viewpoint.

I am a Christian, Jesus is my Lord and Savior. Evolution is a made up tale, the Creation is far easier to explain scientifically that the bull that scientists spew out in their elitist journals. 

These are my beliefs, take em or leave em

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Reply #6 - Oct 17th, 2005 at 4:57pm
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MediaMaster wrote on Oct 17th, 2005 at 3:43pm:
Republicans and Democrats both suck...


Actually, Democrats suck and Republicans blow.  There's a fine distinction between the two.

On a serious note, though, I agree wholeheartedly.  As I've argued before, the entire concept of a party affiliations is morally bankrupt.  Judges are barred from listing a party affiliation because it could jeapordize their judicial impartiality.  Aren't politicians supposed to be impartial?  Aren't they supposed to represent their constituents without thought to their personal desires?

We've gone from a system of electing a person most likely to represent us to electing a person most like us that will represent themselves.


MediaMaster wrote on Oct 17th, 2005 at 3:43pm:
This two party thing blows. Why do I have to choose one or the other? Ill just take things that both have, and some that neither have and call them my own, thank you very much.


Right.  The Constitutional Party is the only group that even comes close to representing a majority of my beliefs, but even they're out in left field on some issues and they don't stand a chance of ever getting a major candidate elected.



MediaMaster wrote on Oct 17th, 2005 at 3:43pm:
Bush is a freaking Nazi. Enough said. I dont know what hes got planned for the rest of his time in office, but its got me wishing I had a bomb shelter constructed. We are so overdue for another "terrorist attack" its not even funny.


You hit that one on the nail.  We haven't done a single thing since 9/11 that has made us even the slightest bit safer.  There is nothing stopping a foreign terrorist from sailing to Mexico with a packload of nastiness strapped to his back and crossing the porous US-Mexico border.  They could be coming our way with a boatload of malicious intent and we'd never even see it coming.


(Abortion comments separated into another post for detailed berating.)



MediaMaster wrote on Oct 17th, 2005 at 3:43pm:
The government should be seperate from the church.


I agree with this to some degree.  God said...

Matthew 22:20 - And he saith unto them, Whose is this image and superscription?
Matthew 22:21 - They say unto him, Caesar's. Then saith he unto them, "Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's, and unto God the things that are God's."


Christ's churches are not intended to run the government.  However, that does not absolve governmental figures from their obligations before God, nor does it give a government an excuse to be morally bankrupt.  The Bible has several examples of Godly nations.

Ultimately, there is no power on earth that will run completely parallel to God's word. Even the haughty ideals of a constitutional America are going to go adrift somewhere.  As such, we have a choice to make.  Do we put God first, or America first?



MediaMaster wrote on Oct 17th, 2005 at 3:43pm:
Gay marriage, again... whatever. If they want to do it, go ahead, who are we to judge.


It's not a question of allowing gay marriage, it's a question of recognizing gay marriage.  If the vast majority of constituents in a state wouldn't personally recognize the marriage, why should the state defy its citizens and offer that very same recognition?



MediaMaster wrote on Oct 17th, 2005 at 3:43pm:
Marriage in this country is more legality and tax breaks anyway, we long ago abandoned the sanctity of it.


Can I get an amen?  Truer words have never been spoken!



MediaMaster wrote on Oct 17th, 2005 at 3:43pm:
Gun control... stupid idea.


You summed that up pretty well, and everyone knows what I think about the subject, so there isn't much I can add to that.  Good stuff, Briney.



MediaMaster wrote on Oct 17th, 2005 at 3:43pm:
Drugs. Legalize em. who cares.


Up until a few months ago, I used to believe the same thing.  My rationalization was, "Hey, it's your body, do what you want."  Then I read "Under the Overpass," an amazing book about a young Christian that spent six months living the "homeless life" so he could gain a better understanding about exactly what these people needed.

One thing he continuously pointed out was the total domination of drugs in the lives of homeless people all over the country.  I'm not talking about marijuana, either.

You see, we'll end up paying for rampant drug use one way or the other.  We can either keep it illegal and pay insane amounts of cash enforcing a bunch of unenforceable laws, or we can eliminate the laws and pay insane amounts of cash for rehabilitation, welfare, unemployment, medical benefits, and other social costs.

My fix?  Legalize drugs, but make users register.  From that date forward, the user is no longer eligible for any government benefits, including welfare, medicare, medicaid, or any social security above and beyond what they paid in.

Problem solved, everyone is happy.


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I dont like abortion at all but our government does not have the right to push religous views on women's bodies.


Absolute nonsense.  Since when was defending against the premeditated, unsubstantiated, cold-blooded murder of a defenseless child considered a "religious view?"  All law is based on somebody's sense of morality.  Without ethics or a common definition of decency, there would be no law.  Anyone who fails to see abortion as immoral, unethical, and indecent is (at best) uneducated about the issue and (at worst) seriously depraved.

To illustrate a point, let me introduce you to a friend of mine.  Her name is Kati, and we share the same birthdate.



Like me, Kati was adopted.  Like me, her mother chose to carry her to term and place her for adoption instead of killing her.  I met Kati about five years ago while trying to find my birthsiblings and we became fast friends.  Kati is a wonderful girl and I am eternally thankful for her support through some very rough times.

Every time I hear someone advocate abortion or somehow suggest that it is a "woman's right," a hundred faces pop into my head and hers is foremost.  You see, when you suggest that abortion is a "woman's right," you suggest that eliminating Kati is acceptable.  You suggest that ending her life before she even took her first breath is somehow noble.  You suggest that Kati was a mistake and that killing her is an appropriate solution to that mistake.

On behalf of "mistakes" everywhere, I humbly disagree.

Could you tell Kati to her face that abortion is a woman's right?  I certainly hope not.



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Third trimester abortions are dangerous, so I dont think those should be allowed.


Dangerous for who?  The mother?  I guarantee it's dangerous for the baby!  What makes the mother's life any more sacrosanct than that of her child?

Besides, once you start playing the "date" game, you realize how futile it is.  Most people can't pinpoint the conception of their child on a calendar, so setting a specific date in stone for the beginning of the third trimester would be impossible.

It's pointless anyway.  If a doctor is willing to perform an abortion, I doubt fudging a date on a medical form would be ethically troubling.


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Bob you are preaching to the choir here. I totally agree, but how do you propose that the US handle this problem?
  

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You mentioned banning third-trimester abortions because of potential physical complications, but what about the psychological trauma suffered by women that abort their children?  Post-Abortive Syndrome is a very real and very common ailment suffered by women that kill their children, and I honestly don't know how such a thing could be unexpected.

http://www.abortionfacts.com/reardon/after_abortion_psychological_rea.asp


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I totally agree, but how do you propose that the US handle this problem?


Ban it.  Make it a capital offense.  Any woman having an abortion would be charged with murder, as would any so-called doctor that might be involved.  Her husband/boyfriend/whatever would be charged as an accessory if he urged her to do it.

Anybody depraved enough to murder their own child deserves to rot in the darkest jail cell on earth.

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Check this out...

http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/Index.asp?ID=53241

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i didn't know you were adopted.....
  
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b0b that little diddy you just wrote under the picture of Katie was damned impressive.

Very well written, my hat is off.
  
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yea I admit i was becoming slightly apathetic on the subject... Many women at my school feel very strongly on the subject, and after a few debates I was thinking legislatively abortion should be allowed. But after reading that and alot of thought, If im giving in a little there, how is that any different if I support it outright. Its either you do it or not...

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Reply #14 - Oct 18th, 2005 at 11:37am
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On a lighter (though just as ominous) note, Sylvester Stallone has agreed to act in another Rocky movie.

Yeah, just what we needed.

http://www.boston.com/ae/celebrity/articles/2005/10/18/stallone_to_return_for_ro...

This thing has "box office flop" written all over it.

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