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Reply #1080 - Jun 16th, 2008 at 5:37pm
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"It's for your own good. We know whats best."

I give us another century.
  

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Reply #1081 - Jun 16th, 2008 at 5:37pm
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I keep saying it but...this is getting ridiculous!

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Reply #1082 - Jun 17th, 2008 at 12:21pm
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http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=3906861&cl=8357172&ch=4226714&s...

Video report of the govt using US Soldiers as guinea pigs.  There are many points to make here.  First of all, this isn't all the testing and trial drugs they give current US soldiers.  GIs are ordered to take experimental drugs when their superiors tell them it's just part of a cocktail of "vaccines" for when they go overseas.  Second, the Dr. claims to not want to "deprive soldiers of an effect non-smoking treatment".  Well if that's true why do you need test trials?

Our US military men and women have been lab rats since WWII and it's amazing this story slipped through the cracks of official news keepers.  It's nice to know there are a few journalists left that do investigative reporting to help people.

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Reply #1083 - Jun 17th, 2008 at 2:59pm
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http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_23845.aspx

Child abuse is wrong...child abuse accusations should be handled delicately.

Filing a child abuse claim on something a PSYCHIC said...now that's different!

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Reply #1084 - Jun 17th, 2008 at 8:29pm
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That woman has a very large cash award in her future.

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Reply #1085 - Jun 17th, 2008 at 9:05pm
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STATE OF OKLAHOMA
2nd Session of the 51st Legislature (2008)
HOUSE JOINT RESOLUTION 1089
By: Key
AS INTRODUCED

A Joint Resolution claiming sovereignty under the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States over certain powers; serving notice to the federal government to cease and desist certain mandates; and directing distribution.

WHEREAS, the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States reads as follows:

"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."; and

WHEREAS, the Tenth Amendment defines the total scope of federal power as being that specifically granted by the Constitution of the United States and no more; and WHEREAS, the scope of power defined by the Tenth Amendment means that the federal government was created by the states specifically to be an agent of the states; and

WHEREAS, today, in 2008, the states are demonstrably treated as agents of the federal government; and

WHEREAS, many federal mandates are directly in violation of the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States; and

WHEREAS, the United States Supreme Court has ruled in New York v. United States, 112 S. Ct. 2408 (1992), that Congress may not simply commandeer the legislative and regulatory processes of the states; and

WHEREAS, a number of proposals from previous administrations and some now pending from the present administration and from Congress may further violate the Constitution of the United States.

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED BY THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES AND THE SENATE OF THE 2ND SESSION OF THE 51ST OKLAHOMA LEGISLATURE:

THAT the State of Oklahoma hereby claims sovereignty under the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States over all powers not otherwise enumerated and granted to the federal government by the Constitution of the United States.

THAT this serve as Notice and Demand to the federal government, as our agent, to cease and desist, effective immediately, mandates that are beyond the scope of these constitutionally delegated powers.

THAT a copy of this resolution be distributed to the President of the United States, the President of the United States Senate, the Speaker of the United States House of Representatives, the Speaker of the House and the President of the Senate of each state's legislature of the United States of America, and each member of the Oklahoma Congressional Delegation.


Some of the midwestern states certainly are getting ballsy these days!  I'd pay big money (may as much as $3.50!) to see this bill passed and signed!

Of course, until they get the Supreme Court to enforce the 10th amendment, this is mostly useless.  Nonetheless, I'm still very impressed that some Oklahoma representatives have the guts to put this to a vote!

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Reply #1086 - Jun 18th, 2008 at 9:14am
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SEATTLE, Washington (AP) -- A judge declared a mistrial Wednesday in the case of a man who stormed into a Jewish center two years ago and shot six women, killing one, as he ranted against Israel and the Iraq war.

Jurors had indicated in questions posed to the judge that they were hopelessly deadlocked and struggling to determine whether Naveed Haq, 32, was not guilty by reason of insanity, as he claimed.

King County Superior Court Judge Paris Kallas ended the jury's deliberations in their eighth day.

The jurors reached a partial verdict on only one of the 15 counts against Haq, finding him not guilty of attempted first-degree murder of one of the women. But they couldn't agree on the lesser charge of attempted second-degree murder or any of the other 14 charges, which included murder.

Haq held a teenage girl at gunpoint to force his way into the Jewish Federation of Greater Seattle on July 28, 2006. Once in the second-floor office, he began railing against U.S. policies and opened fire when someone tried to call 911. He shot some people in their cubicles, some in the hall and one, Pamela Waechter, fatally as she fled down a stairwell.

An emergency operator eventually persuaded him to surrender.

Prosecutors quickly announced that they hope to retry Haq this year, and representatives of the Jewish Federation of Greater Seattle expressed their disappointment at the mistrial.

"There is no argument Haq killed Pam. There is no argument he viciously shot five others. There is no argument that he made anti-Israel and anti-Semitic statements. Somehow, all this was not enough," Jewish Federation President Richard Fruchter said.

During the six-week trial, prosecutors did not dispute that Haq had mental problems and had struggled to make friends and hold down jobs. But he knew right from wrong, could tell what he was doing and wanted to get his message out, they said.

They noted that Haq planned the shooting for days, drove from his eastern Washington home to Seattle the morning of the shooting and hid in the building's foyer to avoid detection.

Haq's lawyers, however, argued that he had a long history of mental illness that had been worsened by a change in his medication. A defense expert diagnosed bipolar disorder with psychotic tendencies.

In written questions to the judge, the jurors asked for further clarification of the legal definition of insanity. Kallas declined to help them, saying she could not answer beyond what was provided in their instructions.

King County Prosecutor Dan Satterberg said none of the survivors of the shooting was looking forward to testifying again but would if necessary.

"They have to think about their wounds, their physical and emotional wounds, every day," he said. "The experience of testifying made this a real emotional roller coaster for them."
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Waechter, 58, was the director of the Jewish charity's annual fundraising campaign. One of the survivors, a pregnant Dayna Klein, took a bullet in her arm as she protected her fetus.

If found guilty, Haq would have been sent to prison for life without the possibility of release. While presenting his insanity defense, Haq's attorneys said he posed a risk to society and should instead be locked in a state mental hospital for the rest of his life.


Wow, that really restores my faith in the criminal justice system.

He marches into an office buidling holding a girl at gunpoint and starts shooting people, and the morons on the jury can't figure out that he's guilty?  Screw it, let the guy go free and put the jury in jail for criminal stupidity.

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Reply #1087 - Jun 18th, 2008 at 5:31pm
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This mental illness rhetoric is going too far!
  
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Reply #1088 - Jun 19th, 2008 at 4:23pm
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Court quashes dad's grounding of 12-year-old daughter
Last Updated: Thursday, June 19, 2008 | 9:59 AM ET
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A father plans to appeal after a Quebec court ruled that he didn't have the right to punish his 12-year-old daughter by banning her from a school trip.

Quebec Superior Court Madam Justice Suzanne Tessier ruled Friday that the girl should be allowed to attend the three-day trip within Quebec this week.

The father first forbade his daughter from going online after the Grade 6 student posted photos on a dating site, the Globe and Mail reported in its Thursday edition.

The girl's parents are divorced, and after she had an alleged row with her stepmother, the dad barred her from going on a school trip to mark the class's graduation from elementary school, the newspaper says.

"When he said, 'OK, it's final. You're not going,' she smacked the door, left and went to live with her mother," the father's lawyer, Kim Beaudoin, told CBC News.

Last Wednesday, the dad received a motion petitioning the court to overturn the punishment.

Two days later, the justice ruled that the punishment was too severe since the girl had already been sufficiently disciplined, said Beaudoin.

Beaudoin said the justice also said there was no reason for the punishment to stand, since the girl was now living with her mother, even though the father has custody.

Beaudoin said the father, who has four children, was "devastated," especially since the ruling came days before Father's Day.

While Beaudoin said the case is a first for her, she doubts it will trigger a flood of similar claims.

"Usually children have lots of respect for their parents and they wouldn't go there," said Beaudoin.

She said the judge stressed that the case was an exception. "But for a field trip, I'm thinking this is a big exception."

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2008/...t.html?ref=rss


It's pretty bad when a court feels they're the appropriate venue for this kind of case.  The judge should have laughed this out of court.

Sorry Canada.  May god have mercy on your soul.

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Reply #1089 - Jun 19th, 2008 at 4:49pm
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"Hmm, the court says you can go on the trip...fine get my belt for your alternative punishment.  What?  Now you don't want to go on the trip?"

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Reply #1090 - Jun 19th, 2008 at 5:05pm
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I'm pretty sure that even hinting at using a belt would constitute attempted murder in Canada.

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Reply #1091 - Jul 16th, 2008 at 9:50am
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INDIANAPOLIS - A janitor whom a university official had accused of racial harassment for reading a historical book about the Ku Klux Klan on his break has gotten an apology — months later — from the school.

Charles Bantz, chancellor at Indiana University-Purdue University Indianapolis, apologized to Keith John Sampson in a letter dated Friday, saying the school is committed to free expression.

"I can candidly say that we regret this situation took place," Bantz wrote.

Sampson's troubles began last year when a co-worker complained after seeing him reading a book titled "Notre Dame vs. the Klan: How the Fighting Irish Defeated the Ku Klux Klan."

The book's cover features white-robed Klansmen and burning crosses against a backdrop of Notre Dame's campus. It recounts a 1924 riot between Notre Dame students and the Klan in which the students from the Catholic university prevailed.

A historical account
Sampson, a 58-year-old white janitor and student majoring in communication studies, said he tried to explain that the book was a historical account.

"I have an interest in American history," Sampson said. "I was trying to educate myself."

But Sampson says his union official likened the book to bringing pornography to work, and the school's affirmative action officer in November told Sampson his conduct constituted racial harassment.

"You used extremely poor judgment by insisting on openly reading the book related to a historically and racially abhorrent subject in the presence of your black co-workers," Lillian Charleston wrote in a letter to Sampson.

Civil liberties groups and bloggers who took up his cause said Sampson had been wrongly cited for reading a book that is carried by the school's library.

"I am sure you see the absurdity of a university threatening an employee with discipline for reading a scholarly work that deals with the efforts of Notre Dame students in the 1920s to fight the KKK," American Civil Liberties Union of Indiana attorney Ken Falk said in a letter to a university lawyer.

The university in February informed Sampson no disciplinary action would be taken because the affirmative action office was unable to determine whether his conduct was intended to disrupt the work environment.

"My prior letter was not meant to imply that it is impermissible for you or to limit your ability to read scholarly books or other such literature during break times," wrote Charleston, who has since retired, in a second letter. "There is no university policy that prohibits reading such materials on break time."

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The Foundation for Individual Rights in Education, a group that has fought for student rights around the country, said the second letter wasn't good enough.

"By first finding Sampson guilty of racial harassment simply for reading a book in the break room, then refusing to admit the gross impropriety of such a finding, IUPUI makes a mockery of its legal and moral obligations as a public institution of higher learning," wrote Adam Kissel, director of the group's Individual Rights Defense Program.

The university responded with an April letter to the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education and the ACLU, in which Chancellor Bantz said that he regretted what had happened and that the letters written to Sampson were not in his personnel file.

But Bantz didn't apologize to Sampson until last week, after a column in The Wall Street Journal sparked renewed criticism. Bantz also wrote to the others involved in the incident, including the co-worker who filed the complaint, said university spokesman Rich Schneider.

"The sentiment the chancellor was expressing in all of the letters was that this whole matter could have and should have been handled differently," he said.

Sampson, who still works for the school, said that he accepts the university's apology but that he was hurt by the allegations and has not enjoyed being in the spotlight.

"It's really frustrating for me because I am not the kind of person that they were painting me as," he said.


Wow.  A guy reads a book about how the Klan got thrown out of a university campus, and that somehow offends a black person?  How does that make any frickin' sense?


{Strangelove}You can't read in here, this is a university!{/Strangelove}


What's really funny is that if you look up the name of the Affirmative Action officer quoted in the article, you find this little tidbit...

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Lillian Charleston is nationally recognized for her expertise and knowledge of Affirmative Action and related issues. In addition to serving as the Affirmative Action Officer for IUPUI for the past 16 years, she previously worked as a desegregation specialist for the Indianapolis Public Schools. She has been an officer and board member of the American Association for Affirmative Action and the Indiana Industry Liaison Group. She also supports her community through active board service with the Indianapolis Metropolitan Development Commission, the Indianapolis Urban League, the Indianapolis Chapter of Big Sisters, and the Association for Loan Free Education. She earned her undergraduate and graduate degrees from Indiana University in Urban Studies, Counseling and College Student Personnel.



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Reply #1092 - Jul 16th, 2008 at 10:37am
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If you don't think that is racist...well then you are a racist.


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Reply #1093 - Jul 16th, 2008 at 11:37am
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It's a pity that game only works one way.  If you call a white guy a racist, he's done for life.  If you call a woman or non-white person a racist, people look at you like you've lost your mind.


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Reply #1094 - Jul 16th, 2008 at 12:52pm
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Bob, it sounds like we need some affirmative action on that statement you just made.  What could we call it?  Affirmative action against affirmative action flaws.
  
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