Quote:The long-delayed report by engineers here at the National Institute of Standards and Technology in suburban Washington is intended to solve one of still lingering central questions about the 2001 attacks: Why did 7 World Trade Center fall, if it was not hit by an airplane.
The NIST report for WTC 1 and 2 came out way too quickly and we had to wait 7 years for them to get around to BS and tamper with the evidence for WTC 7.
Quote:“Heating of floor beams and girders caused a critical support column to fail,” said Shyam Sunder, the lead investigator. “Video and photographic evidence combined with detailed computer simulations show that neither explosives nor fuel oils played a role in the collapse that brought the building down.”
Video and photographic evidence? I hope they finally release some. The authors of the 9/11 conspiracy lies book from PopMechanics said they saw photos only they were allowed to see. I wonder if we'll get to see the entire floors gutted as they claimed they were. If NIST and that book are opposite in any detail, one of them should be called into question if not both. Also, computer simulations are not evidence, there are 3 different versions alone of the Pentagon hits and there are at least 2 computer simulations of both WTC 1 and 2.
What I'm really looking forward to, if they cover it at all are two simple questions:
1) Why did WTC7 call at near free fall speeds?
2) Why did WTC7 fall in its own footprints?
There are other questions I have but the NIST report won't cover it. Such as:
1) Why is there video of a crew man saying they were getting ready to "pull" the building (demolition lingo for taking down a building with controlled demolitions).
2) Larry Silverstein, the own of the WTC complex, is on record saying that he knew the building was coming down and that they were going to "pull the building". If that's not in the NIST report somewhere it should still be explain.
3) If WTC1 and 2 came down somehow because of jet fuel then what did cause WTC7 to ignite fires especially since it's the furthest building away and other buildings that had 1 and 2 fall on them didn't come down or ignite fires.
4) If high rise steel buildings are this weak to come down as a result of a little fire, do insurance companies need to raise their rates for buildings like these? Also when did steel because a puss construction material and melt at far less temperatures than its chemical bonds allow it?
Quote:No one died when 7 World Trade Center fell, nearly seven hours after the twin towers came down. But the collapse of the adjacent tower — once home to branch offices of the Central Intelligence Agency, the Secret Service and to the Giuliani administration’s emergency operations center — is cited in hundreds of books and Internet sites as perhaps the most compelling evidence that an insider secretly planted explosives, intentionally destroying the tower.
I think that says it right there. Get rid of the place that the operation was carried out from.
Quote:It is the first skyscraper in modern times to collapse primarily as a result of a fire.
Amazing, a news article is finally reporting things we 9/11 Truthers have been saying since day 1. 9/11 was the first, last, and only time that a steel building has collapse as a result of fire. Let's not forget that the entire structure (1, 2, and 7) were both demolished/destroyed completely. That means that every single critical part of that building had to fail. The designer and primary repair person are on record saying that they never thought any of those buildings would come down, even after seeing planes crash into it.
Quote:Mainstream engineers and government officials have rejected the speculation as ridiculous. But national polls have shown that perhaps as many as 1 in 7 Americans believe that the destruction of the World Trade Center towers was an inside job.
Over 1/2 of all New Yorkers believe this in a Zogby pole and at least 1/3 of all American believe this in a CNN/ABC/etc. polls.
Quote:The investigators determined that debris from the falling twin towers ignited fires on at least 10 floors at 7 World Trade Center, which was about 400 feet north of where the city’s two tallest buildings once stood. The blazes burned out of control for six hours, as the city fire department, devastated by the collapse of the twin towers, abandoned its efforts to extinguish the fire, and the sprinkler system was incapacitated.
So let's see here. A building that is built to house a command center from the mayor, CIA, and a bunch of govt agencies is so flimsy that particle debris can ignite a fire, the sprinkler system could fail, fire fighters stop trying to put out the fire just because, and this is some 6 hours after the collapse. Not to mention Rudy Guillani is on record saying that he was told to leave WTC7 because it was going to collapse. If they knew all this, why didn't they try and put out the fire that would lead to more rubble and possibly more causalities. You also have to explain Silverstein's "pull it" comment.
Quote:The heat from these fires, the investigators said, caused the beams on the lower floors of the east side of the tower to expand, ultimately causing a girder on the 13th floor to disconnect from a critical interior column that supported the building’s long floor spans. Once the 13th floor gave way, a cascade of floor failures started down to the fifth floor, leading to the overall collapse of the tower.
We must stop building strong steel buildings like this! If one small beam is out of place just a little a whole building could fall down! What do we call this again? Oh right...BS!
Quote:Skeptics have questioned if explosives were planted at 7 World Trade Center, as well as the twin towers and the Pentagon, as the Bush administration was seeking a justification to invade Iraq and Afghanistan. What started as a small number of such conspiracy theorists has only ballooned into a movement of sorts, largely fed by Internet sites that promote the theories.
Well where else can the normal people of America get a free voice? Main stream media? Nope. Public forums? Oh that's right PATRIOT ACT and Ashcroft and Bush have said no to this. So ya, the Internet is our only recourse to question our elected officials. Because asking questions can now get you on the No Fly List, thrown into a secret prison without trial, and labeled a "nut" even by those you elected.
Quote:“Seven World Trade Center is one of the key points of evidence, one of the smoking guns,” said Richard Gage, a California architect who leader a group called Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth. “There have been much hotter, longer lasting and larger fires in skyscrapers that have not fallen down.”
I advise anyone to go to A&E for 9/11 Truth's website. They are an amazing group. These people aren't quacks, they know what they're talking about because it's their livelihood to know things like this!
Quote:The investigators said that if the city water main had not been broken during the collapse of the twin towers, the sprinkler system would likely have put out the fires at 7 World Trade Center, and the building would not have fallen.
The engineers also examined whether diesel fuel tanks in the building — to power the Giuliani administration’s emergency operations center and other government offices — might have been a fuel source that caused the collapse. The investigators determined, based in part on computer models and videos of smoke coming from the tower, that the heat generated from any fuel-fed fires would not have been enough to cause the collapse.
This was one of 5...FIVE...different explanations given by all sorts of government agencies and published magazines attempting to debunk the "9/11 lies". If you're a cop and a suspect changes his story, wouldn't that make you mighty suspicious?
Quote:Dr. Sunder said the investigation pointed to how expansion that can occur in steel as it heats up in a fire needs to be considered to prevent skyscraper collapses.
“Our take-home message today is the reason for the collapse of World Trade Center 7 is no longer a mystery,” Dr. Sunder said. “It did not collapse from explosives or fuel oil fires.”
Before I make any more assumptions I'd like to get my hands on the report when it comes out. Then I can do a more thorough job at a response.
Quote:A new, substantially different, 52-story 7 World Trade Center opened in 2006.
Hopefully no one will smoke by it because if one ember gets on the new carpet...THE WHOLE THING IS GOING TO TURN INTO A ROCKET SHIP AND BLOW UP!
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