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Reply #135 - Apr 20th, 2006 at 11:14am
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"I wasn't referring to the article itself, but to the conference being held in Chicago that is listed at the top of the article."

I apologize, sir.  My mistake.

They're probably holding it there because that's the one place the globalists won't nuke.  Also the "fine" mayor of Chi-town probably will get his mafiaosos to set up "free speech zones", those are places where you are ALLOWED to have free speech.  Ha ha ha...Not funny but...ha ha ha ha.

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Reply #136 - Apr 20th, 2006 at 11:52am
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Considering the entire conference is aimed at conspiracy theorists, I doubt it'll be an issue.  Besides, it's at a conference center, not at the Republican National Convention.

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Reply #137 - Apr 27th, 2006 at 9:50am
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060427/ap_on_go_co/katrina_congress_17;_ylt=Ahwv96M...

This is both good and bad news.  Good news is FEMA would not be able to take over the highways and media in a martial law situations, they could not force citizens to work at government communes, or suspend travel.  The bad news is with the Patriot Act, there's no more point to have FEMA.

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Reply #138 - Apr 27th, 2006 at 11:09am
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I don't see how that can be good news.  If they eliminated FEMA, they'd just replace them with another ABC agency with the same power, the same people, and the same problems.

If you think the government is going to dissolve FEMA's powers in "emergencies," you're out of your mind.  It'd be tantamount to Bill Gates giving away every last penny of his wealth simply because he "doesn't want it anymore."

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Reply #139 - May 7th, 2006 at 4:44pm
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060507/ts_nm/bush_guantanamo_dc

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President George W. Bush said he would like to close the U.S.-run prison at Guantanamo Bay -- a step urged by several U.S. allies -- but was awaiting a Supreme Court ruling on how suspects held there might be tried.


"Of course Guantanamo is a delicate issue for people. I would like to close the camp and put the prisoners on trial," Bush said in comments to German television to be broadcast on Sunday night. The interview was recorded last week.
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Reply #140 - May 8th, 2006 at 3:54am
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Reply #141 - May 10th, 2006 at 10:51pm
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Here's a roughly translated version of a letter sent to President Bush by Mahmood Ahmadi-Najad, the president of Iran.  It's a little rough to wallow through, but well worth your time.  He makes some excellent points.

http://www.TWNCommunications.Net/Other/BushLetter.pdf

Here's an excerpt...

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Can one be a follower of Jesus Christ (PBUH), the great Messenger of God,
Feel obliged to respect human rights,
Present liberalism as a civilization model,
Announce one’s opposition to the proliferation of nuclear weapons and WMDs,
Make “War and Terror” his slogan,
And finally,
Work towards the establishment of a unified international community – a community which
Christ and the virtuous of the Earth will one day govern,
But at the same time,
Have countries attacked; The lives, reputations and possessions of people destroyed and on
the slight chance of the … of a … criminals in a village city, or convoy for example the entire
village, city or convey set ablaze.
Or because of the possibility of the existence of WMDs in one country, it is occupied, around
one hundred thousand people killed, its water sources, agriculture and industry destroyed,
close to 180,000 foreign troops put on the ground, sanctity of private homes of citizens
broken, and the country pushed back perhaps fifty years. At what price? Hundreds of billions
of dollars spent from the treasury of one country and certain other countries and tens of
thousands of young men and women – as occupation troops – put in harms way, taken away
from family and love ones, their hands stained with the blood of others, subjected to so much
psychological pressure that everyday some commit suicide ant those returning home suffer
depression, become sickly and grapple with all sorts of aliments; while some are killed and
their bodies handed of their families.


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Reply #142 - May 10th, 2006 at 10:56pm
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Yes, he just might have a brain.  Its an interesting read and he makes some good points.  I hope that soon, his country can sustain its own army to be able to protect its country so that they then wont have that problem.
  

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Reply #143 - May 10th, 2006 at 11:00pm
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Iran would have absolutely no problem sustaining a standing army if they'd stop sending troops and resources to the insurgents in Iraq.  It's hard to create a solid force if they keep dying one by one on foreign soil.

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Reply #144 - May 10th, 2006 at 11:04pm
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Yea...Kinda like us right now?  We have bamillions of troops in so many foreign countries.  If we put them back in America and used them in Iraq, it may be over sooner.  Plus, all these cities who thrived on the military bases that had to shut down...would still be running.
  

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Reply #145 - May 10th, 2006 at 11:57pm
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Those are two separate issues.  Base closings have nothing to do with our involvement in foreign theaters.  Quite the opposite, actually.

You can't really compare our military standing with that of Iran.  Sure, we're spread thin, but American's aren't dying left and right.  Compared to other nations, our death rate is virtually nil.

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Reply #146 - May 11th, 2006 at 12:01am
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Well, if we wern't all over the country, would we not have troops at those bases b0b?

And true, we can't compare really to other countries, but there are some similarities.  Our death rate may be low, but its still there sadly enough.
  

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Reply #147 - May 11th, 2006 at 12:09am
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texfrost wrote on May 11th, 2006 at 12:01am:
Well, if we wern't all over the country, would we not have troops at those bases b0b?


No.  The bases were "realigned," meaning the resources were shifted to other existing bases.  The overall capacity has not been diminished, it's simply been collected into fewer, larger bases.  Think of it as "putting all your eggs in one basket," proverbially speaking.

It was a smart move economically, but a freakin' retarded move in terms of security.  The heartland is completely unprotected by federal bases.  Should a large scale invasion occur, the heartland would have to rely on the National Guard (may God help us all) and armed citizens like... well... us.


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And true, we can't compare really to other countries, but there are some similarities.  Our death rate may be low, but its still there sadly enough.


Yes, the death rate is there, but it's somewhere around 250-300 soldiers per year.  As tragic as that may be, it's statistically irrelevant in terms of standing military strength.

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Reply #148 - May 11th, 2006 at 12:13am
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Theres no large scale invasion in the works. Well, maybe China... hehe.

I wonder where our overinflated budget is going right now, cause we are reducing troop levels all over. Seriously the current expendatures are around 484 billion dollars, but past contracts and commitments put the actual figure near a trillion dollars.

Don't know whats going on with that.
  

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Reply #149 - May 11th, 2006 at 12:14am
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I know what you mean about feeling like a jerk...but it is true.  Sad, but true.

So, basically, we just decided to take down what we established in WWII? {isn't sure} to be able to protect the country?  Which is also what the armories were for, that are shutting down?  Ugh.... I need to buy a bigger and better gun.
  

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