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Reply #435 - Dec 1st, 2006 at 8:21pm
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Billy:  Dad the moon looks weird tonight...
Dad:  Billy...that's not moon...that's a battle station!


Wasn't Bush complaining that Lucas kinda made fun of him in SW Ep 3?  Now it seems a bit daft to complain now!


Chaney is so the emperor...or maybe Karl Rove.

"You're either with us or against us...and if you're against us you'll see what my DEATH STAR can do to your planet.  NOW WHERE IS THE REBEL BASE!!!

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Reply #436 - Dec 1st, 2006 at 8:24pm
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hahahahaha oh man. This is the funniest/scariest news in a long time!
  

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Published on ZDNet News: December 1, 2006, 2:20 PM PT

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The FBI appears to have begun using a novel form of electronic surveillance in criminal investigations: remotely activating a mobile phone's microphone and using it to eavesdrop on nearby conversations.

The technique is called a "roving bug," and was approved by top U.S. Department of Justice officials for use against members of a New York organized crime family who were wary of conventional surveillance techniques such as tailing a suspect or wiretapping him.

Nextel cell phones owned by two alleged mobsters, John Ardito and his attorney Peter Peluso, were used by the FBI to listen in on nearby conversations. The FBI views Ardito as one of the most powerful men in the Genovese family, a major part of the national Mafia.

The surveillance technique came to light in an opinion published this week by U.S. District Judge Lewis Kaplan. He ruled that the "roving bug" was legal because federal wiretapping law is broad enough to permit eavesdropping even of conversations that take place near a suspect's cell phone.

Kaplan's opinion said that the eavesdropping technique "functioned whether the phone was powered on or off." Some handsets can't be fully powered down without removing the battery; for instance, some Nokia models will wake up when turned off if an alarm is set.

While the Genovese crime family prosecution appears to be the first time a remote-eavesdropping mechanism has been used in a criminal case, the technique has been discussed in security circles for years.

The U.S. Commerce Department's security office warns that "a cellular telephone can be turned into a microphone and transmitter for the purpose of listening to conversations in the vicinity of the phone." An article in the Financial Times last year said mobile providers can "remotely install a piece of software on to any handset, without the owner's knowledge, which will activate the microphone even when its owner is not making a call."

Nextel and Samsung handsets and the Motorola Razr are especially vulnerable to software downloads that activate their microphones, said James Atkinson, a counter-surveillance consultant who has worked closely with government agencies. "They can be remotely accessed and made to transmit room audio all the time," he said. "You can do that without having physical access to the phone."

Because modern handsets are miniature computers, downloaded software could modify the usual interface that always displays when a call is in progress. The spyware could then place a call to the FBI and activate the microphone--all without the owner knowing it happened. (The FBI declined to comment on Friday.)

"If a phone has in fact been modified to act as a bug, the only way to counteract that is to either have a bugsweeper follow you around 24-7, which is not practical, or to peel the battery off the phone," Atkinson said. Security-conscious corporate executives routinely remove the batteries from their cell phones, he added.

FBI's physical bugs discovered
The FBI's Joint Organized Crime Task Force, which includes members of the New York police department, had little luck with conventional surveillance of the Genovese family. They did have a confidential source who reported the suspects met at restaurants including Brunello Trattoria in New Rochelle, N.Y., which the FBI then bugged.

But in July 2003, Ardito and his crew discovered bugs in three restaurants, and the FBI quietly removed the rest. Conversations recounted in FBI affidavits show the men were also highly suspicious of being tailed by police and avoided conversations on cell phones whenever possible.

That led the FBI to resort to "roving bugs," first of Ardito's Nextel handset and then of Peluso's. U.S. District Judge Barbara Jones approved them in a series of orders in 2003 and 2004, and said she expected to "be advised of the locations" of the suspects when their conversations were recorded.

Details of how the Nextel bugs worked are sketchy. Court documents, including an affidavit (p1) and (p2) prepared by Assistant U.S. Attorney Jonathan Kolodner in September 2003, refer to them as a "listening device placed in the cellular telephone." That phrase could refer to software or hardware.

One private investigator interviewed by CNET News.com, Skipp Porteous of Sherlock Investigations in New York, said he believed the FBI planted a physical bug somewhere in the Nextel handset and did not remotely activate the microphone.

"They had to have physical possession of the phone to do it," Porteous said. "There are several ways that they could have gotten physical possession. Then they monitored the bug from fairly near by."

But other experts thought microphone activation is the more likely scenario, mostly because the battery in a tiny bug would not have lasted a year and because court documents say the bug works anywhere "within the United States"--in other words, outside the range of a nearby FBI agent armed with a radio receiver.

In addition, a paranoid Mafioso likely would be suspicious of any ploy to get him to hand over a cell phone so a bug could be planted. And Kolodner's affidavit seeking a court order lists Ardito's phone number, his 15-digit International Mobile Subscriber Identifier, and lists Nextel Communications as the service provider, all of which would be unnecessary if a physical bug were being planted.

A BBC article from 2004 reported that intelligence agencies routinely employ the remote-activiation method. "A mobile sitting on the desk of a politician or businessman can act as a powerful, undetectable bug," the article said, "enabling them to be activated at a later date to pick up sounds even when the receiver is down."

For its part, Nextel said through spokesman Travis Sowders: "We're not aware of this investigation, and we weren't asked to participate."

Other mobile providers were reluctant to talk about this kind of surveillance. Verizon Wireless said only that it "works closely with law enforcement and public safety officials. When presented with legally authorized orders, we assist law enforcement in every way possible."

A Motorola representative said that "your best source in this case would be the FBI itself." Cingular, T-Mobile, and the CTIA trade association did not immediately respond to requests for comment.
Mobsters: The surveillance vanguard
This isn't the first time the federal government has pushed at the limits of electronic surveillance when investigating reputed mobsters.

In one case involving Nicodemo S. Scarfo, the alleged mastermind of a loan shark operation in New Jersey, the FBI found itself thwarted when Scarfo used Pretty Good Privacy software (PGP) to encode confidential business data.

So with a judge's approval, FBI agents repeatedly snuck into Scarfo's business to plant a keystroke logger and monitor its output.

Like Ardito's lawyers, Scarfo's defense attorneys argued that the then-novel technique was not legal and that the information gleaned through it could not be used. Also like Ardito, Scarfo's lawyers lost when a judge ruled in January 2002 that the evidence was admissible.

This week, Judge Kaplan in the southern district of New York concluded that the "roving bugs" were legally permitted to capture hundreds of hours of conversations because the FBI had obtained a court order and alternatives probably wouldn't work.

The FBI's "applications made a sufficient case for electronic surveillance," Kaplan wrote. "They indicated that alternative methods of investigation either had failed or were unlikely to produce results, in part because the subjects deliberately avoided government surveillance."

Bill Stollhans, president of the Private Investigators Association of Virginia, said such a technique would be legally reserved for police armed with court orders, not private investigators.

There is "no law that would allow me as a private investigator to use that type of technique," he said. "That is exclusively for law enforcement. It is not allowable or not legal in the private sector. No client of mine can ask me to overhear telephone or strictly oral conversations."

Surreptitious activation of built-in microphones by the FBI has been done before. A 2003 lawsuit revealed that the FBI was able to surreptitiously turn on the built-in microphones in automotive systems like General Motors' OnStar to snoop on passengers' conversations.

When FBI agents remotely activated the system and were listening in, passengers in the vehicle could not tell that their conversations were being monitored.

Malicious hackers have followed suit. A report last year said Spanish authorities had detained a man who write a Trojan horse that secretly activated a computer's video camera and forwarded him the recordings.


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Reply #438 - Dec 4th, 2006 at 1:17pm
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Here it is folks!!!  We "see Flight 77" hit the Pentagon!!

http://www.infowars.com/articles/sept11/pentagon_new_video_shows_explosion_no_pl...

Cause it's not hard to see a 757 from the approach it took!

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Reply #439 - Dec 4th, 2006 at 11:30pm
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How can anyone watch that and not notice the lack of a giant 757 hitting the building?
  
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Reply #440 - Dec 4th, 2006 at 11:40pm
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Airport security is a serious business, but why was a Reg reader refused a Krispy Kreme doughnut at Heathrow airport?

Admittedly, the sugared snacks contain enough cooking oil and sugar to power a trailer park, but who knew they could be fashioned into bombs?

On Saturday afternoon a Reg reader was dropping some friends at Heathrow and stopped off at Krispy Kreme doughnuts outside Terminal 3.

But the reader was directed to the unstuffed ring doughnuts rather than a full-fat, fully stuffed Krispy Kreme special because the fillings fall foul of security restrictions.

"Imagine our confusion when the guy serving us advised that we could only buy ring doughnuts, not filled, circular doughnuts. A moment or two's wrangling in broken English and we discovered that he thought we were outbound passengers.

On further questioning, apparently the liquid contents of a filled doughnut fall foul of the new restrictions on liquids in carry on luggage. Quite how the authorities imagine that a terrorist could blow up a 747 by rubbing two Krispy Kremes together was a bit beyond us.

But a spokesman for BAA denied they were stamping on Homer's favourite food. He said: "Passengers can take liquids in 100ml bottles carrried in a clear plastic bag. But passengers use common sense on foodstuffs. Sandwich fillings and the like are not restricted."

In fact, the only foods still on the restricted list are: "Liquid-based foods, sauces, stews, soups over 100ml in size."

Drinks suffer the same restrictions, but there is no mention of doughnuts.

The real restrictions are available here on BAA's site.


ATTACK OF THE DONUTS!!!

Al Cirspy Kreme...FBI terrorist numero uno!

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Reply #441 - Dec 5th, 2006 at 4:30pm
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X wrote on Dec 4th, 2006 at 11:40pm:
"But passengers use common sense on foodstuffs. Sandwich fillings and the like are not restricted."


If passengers could really use common sense when it comes to carry-on items, TSA (and it's foreign counterparts) would be out of business.

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Reply #442 - Dec 6th, 2006 at 12:51pm
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I don't know why this article wouldn't copy and paste so here's the http

http://www.washtimes.com/national/20061205-105023-5600r.htm

I just would like to know.  These "experts".  How does Bin Ladden stay alive without getting his insulin for his kidneys.  This man is so sick that 2 weeks before 9/11 he had to go to Dubi hospital, an American hospital btw, to be hooked up to kidney dialysis.  Never mind the fact that he met with a director of the CIA at the same time.  So as Bin Ladden is talked about as literally being on the run and moving from cave to cave and small house to small house...how does he bring all that equipment with him?  Where does he plug it into in his cave?  Or is Bin Ladden just the disappeared pea in the global shell game?

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Reply #443 - Dec 6th, 2006 at 2:11pm
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Alex, I'll take "Disappeared Pea" for 1000, please.

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Reply #444 - Dec 6th, 2006 at 11:54pm
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See this is the result of what we have created with the Homeland Security and PATRIOT ACT!

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Kids across America are warned to stay away from “nose candy” in anti-drug campaigns. But a Kanawha County student is fighting his suspension for pretending to put actual candy up his nose.

According to a lawsuit filed in Kanawha Circuit Court Monday, a student-athlete at Sissonville High School was given Smarties candy as a reward for good academic performance. In front of his teacher and fellow classmates, the student pretended to put one of the small candy discs up his nose. Another student used his cell phone to record video of the incident.

Principal Calvin McKinney, who is named as a defendant along with the Kanawha County school board, allegedly called the plaintiff into his office and confronted him about the incident.
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“The plaintiff informed ... McKinney ... that at no time did he possess any drug or did he claim to possess any drug,” according to the suit.

Still, McKinney then threatened to suspend the student — identified in the lawsuit only by his initials — unless he joined McKinney’s “Narc Program” and went undercover to find real drug users at the school, according to the suit.

“The [student] was told that he was to ‘hang around the bathroom’ and the school parking lot,” the suit states.

McKinney’s investigation into the incident confirmed that the student was telling the truth about the Smarties candy, according to the suit.

“The plaintiff was informed that even though it was, in fact, just candy ... McKinney needed another ‘Narc’ for his program and that if the student would not agree to enter said Narc Program that he would be suspended,” the suit reads.

After the student and his parents met with school officials and the student refused to cooperate with McKinney’s proposal, he received a 10-day suspension, according to the suit.

McKinney allegedly told the family that his “Narc Program” had been in effect for several years, and this was an opportunity to get a good student to go undercover.

The suit contends that McKinney usually uses the threat of suspension to force students who may be suffering academically to become a part of the “Narc Program.”

As a result of the suspension, which began Friday, the student missed a meeting with recruiters who had visited the school to discuss a scholarship opportunity, the suit contends.

The suit seeks an injunction against the school board and unspecified monetary damages for emotional distress, loss of enjoyment of life and the loss of a potential scholarship. It contends that requiring the student to seek out potential drug users could put the student in danger.
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School board attorney Jim Withrow could not be reached for comment Tuesday.


Yes I know you may think the kid is a moron for putting a smartie up his nose.  But I just hope that he was doing it to be ironic.

However the bigger point is that this principal used manipulation and cohesion to "turn" this kid.  Above all...the sole purpose was to snitch on fellow classmates.  I already have video and stories about cops and schools offering kids money to turn in their classmates.  I think I kinda remember reading that in a book.  Kids would turn in their parents to the govt and no real evidence had to be collected then.  And of course these children were hailed as protectors of the Homeland!  I think the book was 1924 or 1948 or something like that...ya know?

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Reply #445 - Dec 7th, 2006 at 10:04am
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This is so insanely retarded that I can't even think straight.  #@!%@#%!!!

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Wednesday, December 06, 2006


MUNCIE, Ind. — Erik Estrada and other lesser celebrities have been sworn in as reserve officers of the city police department here, allowing them to carry badges and guns as part of a reality television series.

About 200 people packed into a Muncie City Hall auditorium for the Tuesday ceremony to swear in the former "CHiPs" star, along with La Toya Jackson, Jack Osbourne, Wee Man and Trish Stratus.

A producer coaxed the crowd into cheering loudly for the camera, and parts of the ceremony had to be repeated several times for the TV cameras.

"Roll call is at 6 o'clock," Muncie Police Chief Joe Winkle told the celebrities. "Do not be late."

Winkle had to say the line three times. The first take was interrupted by audience applause, the second was too quiet.

"Welcome to TV," said Julie Link of Forman Productions. "Sometimes, we have to retake."

The CBS show, "Armed and Famous," being filmed in this east-central Indiana city, population 66,000, follows the celebrities as they enforce the laws alongside city police officers.

Estrada joked with the crowd that people may not recognize him as an officer because he would not be wearing his toupee. He pulled up the back inch of his hairpiece and wiggled it, drawing laughter from the crowd.

Estrada carried a gun but rarely used it to stop bad guys in his 1970s motorcycle-cops drama.

He also appeared in VH1's "Surreal Life" in 2004. Osbourne, 21, son of rocker Ozzy Osbourne, was on the MTV's "The Osbournes." Wee Man, 33, a 4-foot-7 skateboarder, gained fame on the MTV show "Jackass."

Jackson, 50, a singer and sister of Michael and Janet Jackson, is a native of Gary, and Stratus is a former WWE professional wrestler.

Visit FOXNews.com's Television Center for more coverage.


This is a train wreck waiting to happen.  Since a TV show is deemed to be sufficient reason to swear them in, will the PD there do it for me too?  My reasons must be at least as good as a freakin' TV show, right?  Nationwide concealed carry, here I come!

What a joke.  This demeans every officer who has worked to earn their badge.  Swearing in people for entertainment?  Come on!  Prostituting the uniform for a bit of press coverage and the opportunity to hobnob with '70's TV stars is just retarded.

On the other hand, reading about the lawsuits that will inevitably surface when these TV stars cap somebody will be fun. "What training did you have?  None?  But the city authorized you to carry a gun and enforce the law?"

Still, can you imagine being someone who called the police because of an emergency?  I guess you better want your privacy invaded by a bunch of morons with video cameras.

If memory serves, Jack Osbourne has quite a heavy drug habit.  Did the city of Muncie overlook that little fact when they approved this circus?  Thanks to the recent law allowing nationwide concealed carry for police officers, this idiot will now be allowed to carry a concealed firearm anywhere he please.  Fan-frickin'-tastic.

Fire the chief, do a recall election of the city council members that approved it, and run the celebrities out of town on a rail.  Problem solved!

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Reply #446 - Dec 7th, 2006 at 10:19am
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Here are some pictures of training the actors did to become certified.  LAME.

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Singer LaToya Jackson takes aim during filming of the CBS reality show "Armed & Famous" in Muncie, Ind., Monday, Dec. 4, 2006. The cast had firearms training as part of their performance as reserve officers with the Muncie Police Department.

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Sgt. Rick Eber of the Muncie, Ind, police department instructs former WWE pro wrestler Trish Stratus during filming of the CBS reality show "Armed & Famous" in Muncie Monday, Dec. 4, 2006






Actor Erik Estrada, left, star of the 1970s television show "CHiPs" and Jason "Wee Man" Acuna, center, of the MTV reality show "Jackass" get instruction from Muncie Police Sgt. Rick Eber during filming of the CBS reality show "Armed & Famous" in Muncie, Ind., Monday, Dec. 4, 2006.



Jack Osbourne, left, of the MTV reality show "The Osbournes" and Jason "Wee Man" Acuna of the MTV reality show "Jackass" walk from a target during filming of the CBS reality show "Armed & Famous" in Muncie, Ind., Monday, Dec. 4, 2006.



Jason "Wee Man" Acuna of the MTV reality show "Jackass" takes a break from filming of the CBS reality show "Armed & Famous" in Muncie, Ind., Monday, Dec. 4, 2006.
  

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Reply #447 - Dec 7th, 2006 at 2:47pm
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You know Erik Estrada's defense will be the following:

"No, but I played one on TV!"  *Grin*
  

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Reply #448 - Dec 10th, 2006 at 2:23am
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http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,1968664,00.html

Ok someone tell me a) why no one is mad at this? b) Why the British govt isn't mad at this? and c) the purpose of the bugging if it wasn't for some ulterior purpose?!

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DNA swab ... Should samples from babies be added to the National Database?

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BRITAIN’S most senior murder investigator has called for DNA to be taken from babies.

Commander Dave Johnston said it would build up a database to SOLVE crimes and PREVENT others.

He said samples could also be taken from Britons renewing passports and from migrants arriving here. The head of the Met Police’s Homicide and Serious Crime Unit, went on: “We have 300,000 unsolved cases where we have taken a profile at a crime scene but have not yet matched it.

“As well as solving crime, it would really make someone think twice about committing crime if they knew their DNA was on a database.

“There is also a compelling case for taking DNA from people when they die, so that we can cleanse the database.”

There are already three million profiles — covering six per cent of the population — on the National DNA Database, set up in 1999.

Currently saliva samples are taken only from those arrested and cost £47 to put on the database.

Yet “heel prick” blood samples are already taken from babies at four days old to test for genetic diseases and could be used at little extra cost.

Cdr Johnston — Vice Chair of the Association of Chief Police Officers’ homicide working group — stressed his was a personal view. He added: “There are a lot of issues around this, including human rights issues. That’s the debate I want.”


Now we must also do it to every adult!  Uhh now we must put tracking chips in your kids...for their safety...if ya know...they get abducted.  Ummm now we must do it to all adults.  I've got it!  To stop crime we must get the population of the world down to 500 Million and put more of you in "internment camps!"

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