MediaMaster wrote on Feb 23
rd, 2006 at 1:39pm:
Little too much hate in this thread for my liking. I have several Muslim friends who are awesome. Like I said before the majority of that faith are peaceful, its the pricks who go out bombing stuff that give it a bad name. Not exactly a good thing, when you go lumping together everyone from a particular place in the world or from a particular religion.
Until a short time ago, I thought the same thing. Then, after studying the religion and looking at it as a whole, I came to a very different conclusion.
After looking at Mohammed's life and learning a thing or two about his so-called "ministry," I've come to believe that anyone that claims to follow him is one of two things:
1) Freakin' Evil
2) A Pathological Liar
Let's take a look at the Quran and see exactly what kind of things their religion propogates...
Quote:"Those that make war against God and His apostle and spread disorder in the land shall be slain or crucified or have their hands and feet cut off on alternate sides, or be banished from the land" The Table #32
"Prophet make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites, and deal sternly with them. Hell shall be their home, evil their fate"
Sovereignity (66) #9
"Unbelievers are those that say: 'God is the Messiah, the son of Mary.' For the Messiah himself said: 'Children of Israel, serve God, my Lord and your Lord.' He that worships other deities besides God, God will deny him Paradise, and the Fire shall be his home. None shall help the evil-doers. Unbelievers are those that say: 'God is one of three.' There is but one God. If they do not desist from so saying, those of them that disbelieve shall be sternly punished." The Table #71
"When you meet the unbelievers in the battlefield strike off their heads and, when you have laid them low, bind your captives firmly. Then grant them their freedom or take a ransom from them, until War has laid down her burdens."
Muhammad (47) #4
"When the sacred months are over, slay the idolaters wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere for them. If they repent and take to prayer and render the alms levy, allow them to go their way. God is forgiving and merciful." Repentance (9) #5.
"Fight against those to whom the Scriptures were given as believe in neither God nor the Last Day, who do not forbid what God and his apostle have forbidden, and do not embrace the true Faith, until they pay tribute out of hand and are utterly subdued." Repentance (9) #28
"Therefore do not falter or sue [or call] for peace when you have gained the upper hand" Mohammad (47) #34
"Make war on them until idolatry shall cease and God's religion shall reign supreme" The Spoils 8:~40
"God revealed his will to the angels, saying: 'I shall cast terror into the hearts of the infidels. Strike off their heads, strike off the very tips of their fingers!'
"This is because they defied God and His apostle. He that defies God and His apostle shall be sternly punished by God." The Spoils 6 8:12-
Does that sound like the "Religion of Peace" to you, Briney? I can sympathize with the fact that you've got Muslim friends, but if they claim to hold to the ideals quoted above (assuming they're not radically out of context), they're responsible.
I accept responsibility for the Bible. If it's wrong, I'm wrong. If someone takes issue with the Bible and its precepts and teachings, they take issue with me because I try to mold my life around that very book.
Likewise, if your friends claim to do the same for the Quran, please ask them to logically defend these (and other) passages that clearly paint Islam as being anything but a "religion of peace."
Yanno, if some crazy sect of Christianity started bombing mosques or synagogues, there would be an immediate and universal outcry from the rest of Christiandom. Where is the outcry from the Muslim community over this? Why are they so silent?
The differences between old-school Islam (i.e. the Middle East varieties) and the modern world will never be reconciled. Attempting to find a common ground is fruitless.
-b0b
(...isn't trying to hate on anyone.)
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