Since we will be going to war with Iran soon, I thought I would just get a thread going so we can discuss.

These statements have enraged the West. Iran's president said that the Holocaust never happened.
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/12/14/iran.israel/index.html

These are statements made by Israel regarding Iran's nuclear program

Israel readies forces for strike on nuclear Iran

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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-1920074,00.html

This is Russia's president calling Russia defender of the Muslim world.

http://www.mosnews.com/news/2005/12/12/muslimfriend.shtml

Anyone see a pattern happening yet?

Iran's new president is insane, and pissing off the world. Isreal is going to strike them like they did in Iraq... and Russia says they are defenders of the Islamic world, while the United States will back Israel always.

Keep in mind that all of Iran's weapons and nuclear material comes from the Russian Federation. They would not like their investment destroyed.

~BRiney

(...looks out for WWIII)

This sounds like justification to buy more guns.

-b0b
(...yay!)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/01/14/wiran14.xml&sShe...

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Interesting stuff here.

Just like any religion...Islam has it's sects too.  Albiet dramtically different views on who does what.  I would think this would be easy to solve.  Go to Koran...read Koran...see who comes when....see who top cheese is under Alah...problem solved.  Although Christianity would be much better is we did something like this for all its petty squabbles instead of splitting up churches.  By the way, did you know (I had just found this out a month ago), that Mormons have 2 sects.  That's right...after Joseph Smith died...his first wife and son, Joseph Smith III, said the "promised land" was in GA.  However, many people liked Brigham Young more, who said Utah was said land.  There the "one, true living church set up by God"....was split.  Just a tid bit for all us Mormon lovers/laughers/haters out there.

X
(Mormons = Islam = hilarity!)

Dude holy crap. I got ya Patrick, my phone was off.

Hillary fricking Clinton is even saying Bush is downplaying Iran and we need to impose sanctions.

France is defending their right to use nuclear weapons against terrorist states. WTF, when did nuclear weapons become an option. There is too much talk of using them these days.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/business/3600730.html

Iran getting smart...leading us deeper and deeper down the rabbit hole!

X

I'm going to have to disagree with you on certain points here, Briney.

While I agree it's true that using the dollar is helpful for the US, I disagree that the dollar "is the new gold".  First of all, the US could go bankrupt at any time if the inernational bankers called up the loans the federal govt owes them.  This has been done on purpose and as such the feds have given away some "federal land and state parks" among those is the Grand Canyon!  So our American land has been turned over to inernational bankers as collateral.  Also, gold will be the only gold from now till the end of time.  Third, the dollar, while experiencing better results than the pound, peso, yen, and all others; has been decreasing in value since the 1980s.  This has allowed foreign investors, not to mention Japan and CHINA!, to procure some of our debt.  This, in my humble opinion, is an act of treason.  But I digress.  The dollar is not even worth a dollar and it's competition with the euro is coming about.  With the growing power of the EU, as well as US money following away to Mexico, the dollar is only worth, I believe right now, 86 cents for every dollar.  Remember, last summer of '05, where it fell as sharp as 63 cents for every dollar.  This was done in order to allow the EU to grab more countires when they were annexing, basically, other countries.  When they were done for a time being, think of it as the end of a Risk(c) turn, the dollar went back up quickly.  While this was done purposely by the federal reserve, which is neither federal nor have any reserves, gold has never decreased so sharply in value.  If anything gold, even when it has dipped in value, has risen faster and farther than any investment in the entire history of the world.  I believe the only thing that would compete with the value of gold would be, and I think I'm correct on this but do correct me if I'm wrong, is if someone were to find out hwo to make platinum which would be a vitale component in the making of hydrogen fuel cells.  Even still, gold is the top thing to invest in if you were, let's say, to want to make money.

Also, I believe the move you describe here just shows you even more that Iran is being controlled by a leader who's an operative.  This man, who if you look at the history of, has taken the place of a moderate, good, and elected leader who was thrown out of power.  He has said all the wrong things, exterminate Israel, the Holocost didn't happen, etc.  He has done all the wrong things, such as this.  This will hurt his economy more than anything because the dollar will stay high even if he does this.  If this man isn't an operative then he should go down in history as being the worst country leader of all time.

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MediaMaster wrote on Jan 21^st, 2006 at 5:55am:


He's bluffing, and he's doing a poor job of it.  Iran can't cut off their oil exports without bringing their economy to a screeching halt.

Sure, oil commodities would go through the roof, but it wouldn't kill America (assuming it was short term).  However, Iran would go bankrupt practically overnight.  Their economy absolutely depends on selling oil to America and they know it.

-b0b
(...would like to see some hard facts.)